It’s a $20,000 mistake sometimes

Andrea: You’re handing them such a key to a very expensive thing. It’s a $20,000 mistake sometimes.

Andrea Marie: We are Moms Unhinged, a nationally touring standup comedy show. Join us in our podcast as we explore everything from motherhood, midlife, crisis, marriage, divorce, online dating, menopause, and other things that irritate us.

Andrea: Hello and welcome Everyone to the Moms Unhinged podcast. I am joined today by some of our amazing comedians. We’ve got Jen O’Neill calling in from Atlanta. We’ve got Megan King and Donna Lee coming into you from Texas. And yeah, welcome you guys. This is so fun.

Magen: Hi, thank you for having us. This is exciting.

Jen: Yes.

Andrea: We’re just having little discussions about issues in parenting that make us crazy, that give us gray hairs.

That are just exhausting times. And one of those times is teaching our children how to drive.

And Jen is in the middle of it right now with her son. Donna and Magen have gone through it. I’ve already gone through it, but it is scarring.

Jen: It is unnatural. It shouldn’t happen. Like vehicles shouldn’t be moving at high speeds

Magen: With children in them.

Towards other things

Jen: and we shouldn’t be teaching children how to drive large vehicles at high speeds towards things.

Andrea: I know, I know.

Jen: Away from them.

Andrea: And Yes, someone else. I mean, and it is terrifying. It’s terrifying experience being in the car with them. Your life flashes in front of you multiple times.

Magen: For sure. Or money. I was always about the, I was like, oh God. Oh God, please don’t wreck the car. Please don’t wreck the car. Come on, mom cannot afford you to wreck the car.

Andrea: You’re handing them such a key to a very expensive thing. It’s a $20,000 mistake sometimes.

Starting in parking lots and early lessons

Magen: So, Jen, is your kid excited about learning? Does he want?

Jen: He is excited about learning, but I think he’s a little bit scared to, which is fine by me. I want him to be scared. Like he’s a little scared to drive on like highways and stuff, which I haven’t done that with him yet. I’m choose, I’m, his dad’s gonna, I’m divorced. His dad’s gonna have to take that on. I can’t, I can’t do highways. Like right now, we are just parking lots.

Magen: Yes.

Jen: Parking lots and yeah, yeah.

Andrea: Yeah, so many parking lots. You’d spend your Saturday in a parking lot.

Magen: Yeah. I started teaching my youngest ones during COVID because there were so many empty, empty parking lots, and I was like, let’s just go do this.

Jen: That’s a utilize your COVID time.

Magen: COVID friendly. No one’s in the car.

The first time on real roads

Andrea: That’s the fun activity. Fun activity. Yeah. I definitely remember my son, the moment he pulled onto like a 35 mile an hour street, he was just freaking out. And I was like, you gotta go faster than 15, buddy. You gotta just step on the gas a little bit.

Magen: You’re creating traffic. So I have three. My oldest one I had to force to learn to drive at 18. She did not want to learn. She was like, no. And I was like, come on, I need your help. Like you’re, she’s like five years older and I was like expecting her to like do errands and shit and she was like refusing to learn to drive.

Andrea: Yeah. That’s a weird.

Jen: Oh, sorry, go ahead.

Magen: You can go.

Kids who don’t want to drive vs. parents who need them to

Jen: I was just gonna say that’s the motivating, like, that’s the thing is like, I’m like, I want him to drive because I want him to be able to take himself to lacrosse.

Magen: Yes, help.

Yes, Or take his sister to school. And I want it, but I’m also terrified of it. And like, I don’t know how I’m gonna sleep at sleep. know, when they get older and they’re on the roads. You know.

Andrea: Yeah. Yeah,

Magen: yes,

Andrea: Yeah, for sure. And it’s such a weird thing to me that they don’t wanna drive. There’s a lot of kids who don’t wanna learn how to drive nowadays. When I was a kid, it was like immediately, as soon as the day you could get that permit, you were at the place getting it, you know?

Jen: So are you, do your kids live in cities or suburbs?

Magen: I’m in the city really, I mean, I’m in the suburb. But like close enough. I feel like it’s.

Jen: Because I have this theory that I think that suburban kids wanna get drive immediately and want, like want to get in the car and go, but city kids are like, why would I do that? I got Marta. You know, or it’s scarier. Yeah, exactly. And so I think like my niece didn’t wanna learn, and we all live in the city.

My niece didn’t wanna learn. Sully kind of wants to learn, but he is still reluctant. But I have so many friends in the city whose kids don’t want to. Yeah.

Andrea: Yeah.

Totaling cars and expensive mistakes

Donna Lee: My son was he learned how to drive at the age of six. ’cause we had a ranch and his dad had a giant tractor and he was driving a full on tractor at six. But then he learned how to drive a real car at like 11 or 12 and he could parallel park.

Jen: Oh, whoa.

Donna Lee: He was a rock star. And when he turned 16 it was like nothing.

I mean, he aced the test. It was incredible. My stepson though, I have a stepson who never wanted to drive and we forced him to drive and he totaled three cars within like three years.

Jen: Oh my God.

Andrea: Three?

Magen: We should have followed his lead on that because he’s my expensive one.

Andrea: I think that sounds passive aggressive to me.

Magen: Honestly, yeah.

Andrea: You wanted me to, you wanted me to learn?

Magen: I’ll wreck this car. Just like your insurance is gonna suck.

Jen: Yeah.

Donna Lee: And we’ve already gotten him the sixth car. Oh, like he’s either total them or he’s wrecked them or they were, or they broke down. But anyway, yeah, that’s my bad story.

Andrea: So are you keeping kind of a tally on like the most expensive kid? Because he sounds like probably the most.

Magen: Can we do that? Maybe I need to make an Excel. Yes.

Jen: Yeah.

Andrea: Spreadsheet. Just put it on the spreadsheet. Just, yeah.

Magen: When you die, that just, here’s the spreadsheets attached. This is why you’re getting what you’re getting.

Jen: Oh, that is so smart. Take it out of their inheritance. Yeah, I love it.

Andrea: That is hilarious. I love that idea.

Magen: it. I’d like, I knew it. I never asked for money.

Donna Lee: My son that we’ve proclaimed, he’s the most, he’s gonna be the most successful of the three. So we just say, I guess my husband’s two sons, but he’s gonna keep us out of the nursing home, so we just give him whatever he wants. Just like here.

Andrea: Uh.

Donna Lee: For a lunch, he doesn’t ask for anything. We’re like, you need it, we’re here. Take it. Just keep us out of the nursing home and that’s why feel young. really nice.

Andrea: There’s some bribe money there. Right, that’s so funny.

Stick shift, life skills, and no one caring

Magen: Like, what do you mean? You’re the one. Yeah. So I bought, I have a manual, I have a stick shift, and I bought the car particularly to teach all of my kids to drive a stick shift, and they have refused.

The only one that I really got in it. My oldest one who again, didn’t wanna drive till she, she was 18. And I remember she’s like, I can drive mom. So she gets in the stick shift and we’re in my subdivision and she couldn’t get outta the subdivision without killing it four times. And I was like, can you listen to me now?

And we can go to a parking lot and I’ll teach you. It’s not the same. But yeah.

Jen: Why do you want them to learn stick? I’m just curious.

Magen: I feel like.

Jen: I think because I don’t know how to do it.

Magen: I feel like it’s a skill set that’s dying with my generation and I was just trying to like. Pay it forward. What if the shit that like goes down? Like we don’t know. I’m always prepper in head and I’m like, you might need this skill.

They do not care.

Jen: You might need to find one of the seven cars on the planet.

Magen: Exactly. Exactly. What if nothing can drive, but stick shifts? What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?

Andrea: You know what happened though? I rented a car in England and I wasn’t thinking about that. And they are more, they’re more stick shifts over there. And luckily I drove a stick shift like all through my twenties. I loved my little, I had a little Toyota, Toyota stick shift but it’s on the other side, you know, so I’m doing that.

But like, I didn’t think about the fact that like, I rented the car and didn’t think to say, I need manual or, you know, whatever. Or automatic, I don’t know which I always get confused.

Magen: I mean, state in an say it in an accent.

Andrea: Yeah. Hello, love. I’d like an automatic, please.

Magen: I don’t like a clutch. Okay, so did you do okay? Did you?

Andrea: I did okay. It was very stressful. My kids were in the car and I was. At one time, somehow the hazards got on and we were driving through London and like I’m, and there was the police and I was yelling at them. I think I pretty much scarred them pretty well, but did make it.

Magen: That looked really hard.

Andrea: I know, I know.

Magen: Ugh.

Andrea: So Jen, how has it been like, is he getting his hours?

Because the other thing you have to do is get your hours.

Magen: Oh my God. Yeah, it’s the hours.

Jen: Yeah. So he, I know that he hasn’t started his like, we’re going to send him to like a driving school like take care of the stuff we can’t take care So,

Andrea: Right.

Jen: right now it’s just like his dad practicing with him and me practicing with him. And I will say I was so much more chill than I thought I was gonna be like driving around with him.

And I was just like, to where I surprised myself, I was like, why am I so relaxed right now? Like, why? And I wonder, I was like,

Magen: Timid.

Jen: Is it because I’m like conditioned to think that like men should be driving? And I’m like, you know what I mean?

Magen: God.

Jen: And like, I wonder if I’ll be different if like, if it’s my daughter, you know what I mean? Like I was just like, why am I so relaxed right now? ’cause I’m used to like men driving?

Magen: Really glad you said that.

Jen: I’m the idiot that can’t drive. But once that was all in the parking lot.

Magen: Man. He’s got it even. He is a 15-year-old man. Oh.

Jen: Like he is like, you’re like, thanks for driving me. I’m so dumb. I don’t even know what, where are we going?

Magen: No ma’am. No.

Jen: That’s cool. He is like taller than me now. And I go to him for, I’m like, is that true Yeah. Sully? What’s happening with current events and stuff? It’s like, is that true? And he is like, actually it is, mom.

Magen: Oh, how nervous.

Jen: I’m like.

When her son mixed up the gas and the brake pedals

Andrea: Yeah. No, I think I thought my boys were dumb, so I didn’t, I know if I had the same thing, but they were scary. My oldest one mixed up the gas and the brake.

Jen: Oh yeah.

Magen: multiple times.

Andrea: And crashed into the back of our garage and just crushed. And the funny thing was he, we had this, their old stroller that was like, you know, it was kind of an expensive stroller and I was like, oh, I need to sell that.

You know, I was gonna sell it ’cause it was good, but it was in the garage, crushed it. Also, shelving and some other things, but it was, there was no, like, there wasn’t much damage to the car, so that was a good thing. But yeah.

Magen: I remember that happened when I was teaching my youngest one about driving and it was during Squid Game and he was not doing the break or the gas at the same time. And I was like, did you not red light, green light bitch? Like, do I need to, we just watched that show.

Oh God. And I remember this one distinctly, like he was pulling out and. He was stopping, but he didn’t need to be stopping, and so he almost got rear ended a couple times and I was like, oh my God. Anyway, it made me have anxiety.

Jen: God.

Magen: When Sterling was 16, I remember he was such a good driver.

I would shout things at him to try to throw him to see how he would handle it. So I would like scrape raccoon or prostitute like, and he would just say, prostitute. And he did. He pull over at me and I just like, I’m trying to cut you off, but you’re such a good.

Andrea: Raccoon.

Jen: I know. What if he was like, hell yeah?

Andrea: Those, those.

Magen: I gotta put on the blinker.

Jen: Right, right.

Magen: Which side?

Driver’s ed and questionable teaching methods

Andrea: Mm-hmm. Which side? Which side? But it was like the, it’s like those old driver’s ed movies, they didn’t have those kind of things coming

Magen: Yeah,

Andrea: you. You know, like, would you remember those old?

You guys are probably too young. I had the

Magen: movie where.

Yes.

Andrea: You’d be like, and like the door would open and the cyclist would come out and you know, they didn’t have the prostitute to distract you.

Magen: No, they should have though. You’re right. I took driver’s ed and the coach was teaching it. And when we had to get into the car and drive around, he was so sexist the whole time talking about how well, you know, women just aren’t good, drivers.

Jen: See, that’s why I’m conditioned. It’s these guys, yeah.

Andrea: Yeah.

But that’s so true. The coach used to teach, like that’s what was at our school too. The coach taught, I mean, the coach got weird jobs. They like would teach, health whatever. And then driver’s ed and I was driving and they had those cars where they’ve got the brakes, you know.

But I was driving and I pulled out and I didn’t look around a bush that was on the side of, on the corner and a car was coming. So I ended up in the ditch with all of the students in it.

Magen: You just

Jen: In the actual car, not the simulated one? The real, oh my.

Andrea: No, that was an actual car with all the students ’cause we used to have to take turns, like with all the students driving.

Magen: Did you do the thing where it made the car feel like you were drunk? Did you have that? We had that for one time. It was like it felt that they tried to make the car feel like you’re a drunk driver and it doesn’t like, oh my, so just to prove you not to drink and drive, basically. Back in the day.

Andrea: Oh.

Magen: Missouri, it was fun.

Andrea: So did your parents just, did your parents teach you guys too to how to drive?

Did they, did, do you remember any moments from when your parents were teaching you?

Donna Lee: yeah, I remember my phone country. I lived out of the country, so my, my mom says she was gonna teach me how to drive and she’s Asian, as you know, and she said, oh, Donna, I teach you to drive because I’m the calm one. I’m the calm one. And so she takes me in the back roads and she’s screaming the entire time, we’re gonna die.

We’re gonna die. And she’s just screaming. I wanted start screaming. And I was like so freaked out. So we get home and then my dad got in the car and he was the angry one. We thought for sure he would be the yeller and the screamer. He was so calm. He told me how to drive. Everything was fine.

And I was like, I’ll never trust that woman again. That was almost the same thing I had. My mom literally got in a fetal position in a fetal position like this while I was driving. And I was like, and I wasn’t even close to like a thing. I wasn’t.

Andrea: Oh my gosh.

Magen: You’re gonna hit that car. You’re gonna hit that car. And then she was like, I can’t. I can’t. And I’m the oldest, so she didn’t even try to teach my sister. Oh. She’s like, I’m done. And so my dad had to, and they were divorced at the time, so my dad had to come back around, which was also weird. Oh no.

Getting a license and having no business doing so

Jen: So my dad was like the main one, so I didn’t wanna drive with my dad, and my mom was the one that was like, oh my God. Like freaking out. So she had to stop.

Magen: All had the same mom.

Jen: She let my sister teach me who was only two years older than me. I’m sure that’s illegal now, but she let her teach me and then she had her friend teach me.

And then when my dad, when I went to go take the test, my dad took me to take the test and I was like terrified of him. And I was trying to back out of the driveway and I guess like I almost hit the basketball pole and he started yelling at me and I was like. Forget it. Like I don’t wanna go get a job.

And then he was like, you’re getting in the car, you’re taking the test for practice. And he like made me go take the test for practice. And when I came, I like aced it. I like killed it and like parallel. So I came out with my license and he was like, uh oh, no way. And like he was like yelling at them for giving me my license and I’m like, sorry, state of Georgia.

Magen: He is like, no, trust me.

Jen: Yeah, he is like, no way. I went. What’s so funny is that night I went out driving and I had had all my girlfriends in the car and I was so excited ’cause I had my license and I’m driving and then there’s this car start is like, there’s a car boys and they’re like, you know, driving next to me and they’re screaming at it, like yelling stuff and I’m like hey what’s up and I was like, Hey.

And then I realized that I turned up the window down. I’m doing this ’cause it’s an old car. And they were like, turn your lights on. Like, I was driving around and I was like, I was like, oh, sorry. Sorry. Like I totally, I had no business driving. I had no business having my license. I couldn’t even back out of the driveway. But for some reason I did well in a parking lot test and they threw a license at a 16-year-old.

 Whose sister taught her to

drive.

Magen: 16 young.

Jen: It is.

Magen: Too young.

First solo drives and letting go (sort of)

Andrea: It feels so young. It’s so young. I know. They’re just, they, you just don’t have a lot of brain capacity, you know, yeah. I think it’s smart now that they don’t allow your friends to drive with you, because that was the first thing you did when, back in the day when you get your license, you would just pick up all your friends.

You’d have a car full of people shouting stuff. And you barely have any, you know, capacity for knowing how to drive at that time.

Donna Lee: I first learned how to drive to 16 and tiny little Texas town, I pulled up to the Dairy Queen ’cause I saw this cute boy’s car. And I wanna show off that I could drive now. And I pulled up and he saw me. He’s coming outta Dairy Queen, and he saw me and he was so cute.

And I saw him and I completely went too fast into the spot. And I hit the over the curb and slammed into the pole that was right in front of it. And I dented my car right away.

And boy looked at me like, you dumb dodo.. Could you come fix my car?

Andrea: Oh. Oh my God, that’s so crazy. Well, I gave, so I had, so with my boys, I didn’t wanna care about the car in case that they, you know, dented it and stuff like that. So we had gotten this old, or at the time it was new, it was, you know, a Honda Odyssey minivan, and I was like, okay, this is your car now and I’m gonna go get a new car or new-ish, whatever.

I’ve never gotten a new car in my life, but I a used car and so they, they got to drive around this old, and the paint was peeling and it was like dented. ’cause you know, they like ran into stuff and whatever. So that was their car, you know, in high school. And my youngest son put like lightning bolts on it.

Jen: Oh, nice.

Andrea: It tried to make it cool and like, you know, kind of jazz it up. They had like some lights in like fancy lights in inside and then they took out the back seats and put a recliner in there. So he’s pulling into high school like oh, yeah. Driving the minivan with the lightening bolts.

Magen: Wow. That’s hilarious. We’re gonna need to see a picture.

Andrea: Yeah.

Magen: Of that. I was gonna say minivan is a pretty good car for that age because they’re gonna get all of their friends that they ever had in one car.

Andrea: Yeah, that is true. They were, they would totally load it up and go.

Magen: My mom did the same thing. She bought like a $500 car for me and my sister to share. ’cause we’re 14 months apart and my sister was cool and I wasn’t, and my sister was like, I will never drive that car. Oh my god. So I was like, oh my, my car for myself. Thank you. It was.

Jen: You shared a car with your sister and your boys shared a car. And they, what did they not fight about it?

Andrea: Well, they were three. I know, right? My boys were three years apart, so they really, by the time my oldest, my youngest was learning to drive, my oldest was going off to college, so it worked out pretty well. But like, I can’t imagine if you guys were close, like then there’s just no, you would’ve.

Magen: When she said no, I was like, okay, cool. I didn’t know how this was gonna work. So

Jen: Yeah.

Andrea: Yeah.

Magen: Yeah, she would’ve been an asshole, I think to share with. But we both worked, we both were in school. I had extracurricular plus I worked, so we were just busy people, and my mom was probably just sick of driving us every week.

Moms who are ready to stop being a shuttle

Andrea: Yeah. I mean, that is the bonus of getting your driver’s. mean, I just remember that like I was so tired of being that. I mean, I think that’s what happens is you’re so tired of being the shuttle that you’re like, fine, take it. Take the car. Go, yeah.

Jen: My son just joined lacrosse and it’s like a new thing and it’s every single day and sometimes the bus, when he showed me his schedule and it’s like I have to go pick him up at like 10 o’clock at night on a Monday, and I’m like.

I wanna be asleep by 8:30 on a Monday. Like, you want me to stay awake and then come pick you up? Like, that’s crazy. So I’m like looking forward to him being able to drive himself home from lacrosse at 10 o’clock on a Monday. Yeah.

Andrea: That’s crazy.

Jen: Isn’t it like?

Magen: Yeah.

Jen: I’m new to being a sports mom. My, he was always an indoor kid and now all of a sudden he’s into sports and I’m like, I don’t know what happened, but it’s exhausting.

Magen: Indoor kids. That was my oldest was an indoor, my last one is the one I had to drive everywhere. So thankfully not all three of them. ’cause I would’ve probably been like, okay, now someone has to die.

Jen: Yeah.

Magen: Do it.

Andrea: You’re just gonna pick. Who has the least activities? You guys, you get to stay.

Magen: The others go live with their dad. Yeah, exactly.

Jen: Mm yeah.

Dating, late nights, and not sleeping

Andrea: Oh my gosh. It is such a crazy time. And then what gets crazy too is when they start to date.

Magen: Oh.

Andrea: And then they’re out with the car.

Magen: Yeah.

Andrea: Yikes.

Magen: That freaks me out. That’s weird.

Jen: I’m really worried about that. Yeah, I remember when my mom used to, like, I’d come home from being out or whatever, and my mom would be like, awake and like, like sleepy eyed and like I told you to come. And I was just like, go to sleep, mom. Go to sleep. Like, just go to sleep if you’re tired. And then she was just like I can’t sleep if I know that you’re out on the roads. And I thought she was crazy. But now that I’m a mom, I totally get it. Like there’s no way I can sleep if I know that my children are out driving around at night. There’s no way.

Magen: My mom had no clue what and where I was all the time. Like, I am so thankful. Social media was not a thing, shit. Sorry. I’m a really good mom, even to my dogs. Yeah. But I will say like my kids on the other hand, man, they might have told me something, but I bet you anything, they weren’t always where they told me and I didn’t have a tracker on their phones because.

Andrea: Yeah.

Tracking your kids vs. trusting them

Magen: My kids don’t listen to me. Did you have that, Andrea? have trackers?

Andrea: No, no, I never did the tracking. I know, friends of mine did. I never did the tracking. My thing was like, when I was married, my husband could not go to sleep. I could, ’cause I’m like, I am tired. So my thing was, I’m not gonna track you, but I need to be able to wake up and see that you are not dead. So I need like some check-ins. Like you need to text me and say

Magen: Yeah.

Andrea: that you’re alive. You know, I have mixed feelings about the trackers. ’cause I don’t know, I mean, I think it’s, in some ways it’s good, but I don’t know. In some ways you’re like, I don’t wanna be like, what are you doing out in? Because there was one night where my kid, my son drove to Wyoming ’cause he felt like it with his friends.

Magen: How far is that from you?

Andrea: It’s a couple hours. They just drove to Wyoming.

Donna Lee: If my, if one of ours had driven to Wyoming, that’d be much more of an adventure. But that’s crazy.

Magen: Crazy. I think if I had seen that on my tracker, I’d been like, well, he’s kidnapped.

Mm-hmm. He is.

Andrea: Uh, what do I do now? You know.

Magen: Well, my sister has it. My sister, she has three kids like I do, and she tracked all of them. And now they’re adults. She still tracks them.

Andrea: Yeah. Isn’t that weird? I knew people who still track their adult kids.

Magen: Am like, that feels weird. That feels invasive, right?

Jen: My mom tracks my niece who is now about to turn 21 and she just spent six months in like Italy and traveling around and stuff for school. And my mom would be like looking at her phone like, she’s in Switzerland now. Like, it was like she didn’t track us when we were kids, but if it was available, she probably would have.

Magen: But that makes sense for if they’re out of the country like that, I feel like that’s safe. You know what I mean? Right. But no, I mean, when she just like, she’s at work right now or she’s at, oh, Jesus queen.

Andrea: Yeah.

Magen: Weird man.

Andrea: Yeah. It’s such a weird, it’s such a weird time and it makes it so much interesting with more interesting with all the options we have for them, you know? So, I don’t know. That funny that your mom teeth tracks her granddaughter.

Jen: Uh huh. Yeah.

Magen: It’s a close family. That’s all. It’s a good, good close family.

Andrea: Yeah. Well you guys, this has been super fun. I love these little talks we get, plus I get to see you guys. I sometimes, I haven’t seen you in a while, so yay. So thank you so much. And hey, anyone out there, if you have stories, unhinged moments about teaching your kids how to drive, share ’em in the comments.

Let us know. Share us, share with, tell us your crazy stories. How many cars can you beat Donna’s number of cars her son wrecked?

Magen: I hope.

Andrea: How many? I How many was it?

Jen: I really hope It’s not.

Magen: no.

Andrea: Six cars for one. Who can beat it out there? I think that’s gotta be the record so.

Magen: I would’ve stopped after two. Ah, for sure.

Jen: God.

Donna Lee: My pushover husband. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Andrea: What is that? Fool me once, I don’t know what that is, but.

Magen: Six times.

Jen: Yeah.

Andrea: Fool me six times I feel like.

Magen: No, ironically, that child is now a grown ass man and he is in mechanic school.

Andrea: Oh, well good. He can fix his own cars.

Magen: That’s a good investment for himself.

Jen: He saw the need.

Magen: And now he knows, you know, every car in the world and he knows how to fix cars. And I was like, that’s perfect. Yeah, that’s poetic.

Andrea: Oh my God. Well, this has been so much fun, you guys. I know Donna and Megan’s moving camera.

Magen: The dog.

Andrea: Jen, good luck going through this. We’re just sending you good vibes that you make it through.

Jen: Thank you.

Magen: Eventually he’ll be driving himself to lacrosse.

Andrea: Alright you guys, thanks so much and everyone we’ll have these guys links in the show notes so people can follow ’em online. Follow Moms Unhinged if you aren’t already. Thank you everybody.

Magen: Bye.

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